Executives shuffle in and out of companies all the time, so a couple moves in and of themselves don’t necessarily have an underlying meaning. But Apple appears to be losing a number of its top dogs.

John Herbold, a senior product manager on Apple’s recently announced iCloud service, has left the company, according to his LinkedIn page. His departure follows that of Apple Store creator Ron Johnson (who moved to J.C. Penney earlier this month) and OS X creator and Steve Jobs confidante Bertrand Serlet, who left in March.

Read more at Variety’s Technotainment blog